[Mafia] Codename: MAFIA - Round1 Over, Good Wins by Trickery

[SmilyCube112]

Okay.

/Vote Matthew

[Whistle]

We... don't really have a game here anymore, so eh.

/vote Matthew

[Mr. Lee Hammer]

Yes, vote for me, kill me off like the dirty rotten bastard that I am!

[NebulaChimera2211]

What.

Florien: How did you get a PM from the scum team if you're not scum? If I made a role like that, I wouldn't have given them the ability to read scumchat.

Roleclaim time.
I investigate up to 4 people at once and find out how many of them are evil. I'm allowed to target dead people, hence why I was talking about a Janitor.
I targeted Whistle, Lavender, Kennifer and Florien and found that none of them were "evil".
Either Florien was swapped or they're somehow "good" by default.

[Whistle]

...Why are we even still voting? If all the scum was revealed, it's just... game over, no matter what.

So... I don't know why we're playing anymore.

This was... fun, but not fun enough.

[Whistle]

...No wait. Maybe my theory is correct after all, I don't know.

It just seemed all too perfect for the game to end so anticlimactically.

[Mr. Lee Hammer]

I thought the voting was in good fun now (shrug)

But yeah, I sent the message to Florien. I had gotten in my scum PM that Florien, Kennifer and Geek were my scum-mates and I messaged them all after Lavender sent me a PM asking about my role. So yes, apparently Florien was good all along and we all got played.

[TenOfSwords13]

Ok yeah, game over. Good Wins

I kinda expected this to happen, maybe I should've mentioned a few more times that there were only three evil players, just to make sure this didn't happen though. Apologies all around.

I will be down for a new round of this, if you want to.

[Mr. Lee Hammer]

I'd be down for a new round, sure

[SmilyCube112]

Yea, new round pls. Oh, and I don't really mind changing from 'Corporal Compromise' to somethin' else if that makes it fairer.

[SmilyCube112]

Oh, and BTW, I hid this part of my Role PM from y'all:

"- A fine compromise with the enemy - their life secured, and your victory secured. Everyone wins! (mostly you though)"

[Whistle]

Yeah, let's go for another round. I think my role could be good, even if I could change it.

[NebulaChimera2211]

I'd be happy for a take 2.

For future reference, if you're going to use a role like that, here's how I'd do it. (Mostly based on the Glitch role in some Trouble in Terrorist Town servers and showcased in Yogscast videos.)

• Doesn't see scumchat, if it's available to the actual scum. While alive, could anonymise/disable scumchat and/or even split the scumteam into Traitors.
  
• Investigative results imply they're scum. (Mostly as a nerf to the second part of the above.)
  
• Scum are warned about it in their role PM. ("One of your 'partners' is actually Town/a [role].", "Your possible partners are:")
  

It surprised me that people were allowed to PM each other whenever. It's not something I've seen very much at all, but it kind of reminds me of Town of Salem, which had a similar feature.
It might just open the way for this kind of role to break the game again. Also considering that (unless someone changes their name) if anyone has that kind of role again, it's likely to be Florien, I don't think we should really use it for this specific game any more.

[TenOfSwords13]

For future reference, if you're going to use a role like that, here's how I'd do it. (Mostly based on the Glitch role in some Trouble in Terrorist Town servers and showcased in Yogscast videos.)

• Doesn't see scumchat, if it's available to the actual scum. While alive, could anonymise/disable scumchat and/or even split the scumteam into Traitors.
  
• Investigative results imply they're scum. (Mostly as a nerf to the second part of the above.)
  
• Scum are warned about it in their role PM. ("One of your 'partners' is actually Town/a [role].", "Your possible partners are:")
  

I did try and mention that there were only three evil players, I did not mention it enough, and that's on me.

[Whistle]

We could significantly nerf the role, however. Maybe it would have to be that you can reveal three players as scum, but only once; and at least one of the players revealed have to be townies—heck, even all three. That makes it even more of a guessing game, possibly.

Also, what to do with BCCs on PMs?

[TenOfSwords13]

Also, what to do with BCCs on PMs?

Do whatever you want with BCCs, but I like to be included.

[Whistle]

Sounds good to me.

[NebulaChimera2211]

For future reference, if you're going to use a role like that, here's how I'd do it. (Mostly based on the Glitch role in some Trouble in Terrorist Town servers and showcased in Yogscast videos.)

• Doesn't see scumchat, if it's available to the actual scum. While alive, could anonymise/disable scumchat and/or even split the scumteam into Traitors.
  
• Investigative results imply they're scum. (Mostly as a nerf to the second part of the above.)
  
• Scum are warned about it in their role PM. ("One of your 'partners' is actually Town/a [role].", "Your possible partners are:")
  

I did try and mention that there were only three evil players, I did not mention it enough, and that's on me.

Another little thing: obviously, the "Glitch" doesn't get to know who the scum team is immediately, which you've done.
My idea has no investigative capacity at all...

I understand.

If I was scum that last game, I'd have been careful with who I PMed. And if we got caught like what just happened, I'd have called BS on Florien's role, or at least accuse them of naming random people, and changed my vote to them.

What's a BCC?

[Whistle]

BCC = Blind Carbon Copy. Basically, sending a message to somebody without the other recipients knowing.

[TenOfSwords13]

Another little thing: obviously, the "Glitch" doesn't get to know who the scum team is immediately, which you've done.

My idea has no investigative capacity at all...



If I was scum that last game, I'd have been careful with who I PMed. And if we got caught like what just happened, I'd have called BS on Florien's role, or at least accuse them of naming random people, and changed my vote to them.



What's a BCC?

Firstly, I did not actually tell Florien who the evil team was. I've got at least one brain cell :) Florien only learned the evil team after Matt group DMd who he thought was the evil team.

Secondly, BCC is just as Whistle described it.

[NebulaChimera2211]

Thank you.

I'm considering changing my alias. Should have something worked out within 12 hours.

[Whistle]

Hmm... me too, possibly.

[TenOfSwords13]

I'll be opening a new thread for round 2 later, so that you don't end up looking through half the first game and getting muddled.

[SmilyCube112]

Huh. I just used a random word generator and paired it with a military rank that started with the same letter. Perhaps I should do something different for my R2 (Round 2) alias.

[Kennifer]

My role was interesting with the word I chose but having not been told Florien was on my team I knew it was over as soon as I saw their name in the dm list (whether this was an oversight, I didn't know because of my role, or what). But at least I know the "investigation immune" part of my role worked.