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". .alright."
[He reads up the notes he has.]
"First night was Malakhiri and Red with a musical result. Second was Ada, Amy, and Chip. Third was Lotus and Z. Fourth. . Swapped myself with Amy, and last night I swapped her with Red. If I recall, both end with musical visions."
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Nellie grabs another piece of paper and starts writing something on it. After a while, he stops writing and shows the paper to everyone.
"Alight, I think I tracked down nearly every single action that has been done during Life and Death's twisted game. I'm probably missing information, so let me know what I'm missing so I can add it to this, because I don't want to be missing information that can be critical to figuring out who is the killer."
The Grand List Of Night Actions (Incomplete Edition)Amnesiac (Red) - claims to have remembered being the Investigator on Night 3
Bulletproof (Z) - got targeted by the cultists on Night 3 through Kondraki's swapping
Bus Driver (Kondraki): - Night 1: Swapped Red and Malakhiri, got rickrolled
- Night 2: Chip & Ada and Amy
- Night 3: Z and Lotus
- Night 4: Kondraki and Amy, got rickrolled
- Night 5: Amy and Red, got rickrolled
CPR Doctor (Soul) - allegedly saved Red on Night 4
Commuter (Nellie) - commuted on Night 4, one commute remains
Coroner (Blue): - Night 1: N/A
- Night 2: Visited Freddy, who turned out to be the Investigator
- Night 3: Visited Lloyd, who turned out to be the Jailer
- Nights 4 and 5: ???, possibly did nothing since Malakhiri's death has rendered the Coroner's power as redundant
Fruit Vendors (Chip & Ada): - Night 1: Tried to send fruit to Amy, but instead ended up jailed
- Night 2: Sent fruit to Lotus
- Night 3: Tried to send sour grapes to Kondraki, but was instead sent to Malakhiri as a "Mod Error"
- Nights 4 and 5: Did nothing
Investigator (Freddy/Red):
Night 1: ???
Nights 2 and 3: N/A
Night 4: ???
Night 5: allegedly investigated Tainted Soul, who is allegedly the CPR Doctor
Jailer (Lloyd)
Night 1: Jailed Chip & Ada
Night 2: ???
Stalker (Lotus): - Night 1: Stalked Malakhiri, but got rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2: Stalked Knuckles, who visited Malakhiri
- Night 3: Stalked Amy, who visited Tainted Soul
- Night 4. ???
- Night 5. Stalked Knuckles, has not disclosed who Knuckles visited
Watcher (Knuckles): - Night 1. Watched Kondraki, who was visited by no one
- Night 2. Watched Malakhiri, who was also visited by no one
- Night 3. Tried to watch Lotus, but ended up watching Z instead, who was visited by Kondraki and Malakhiri (Bus Driver swapped Lotus and Z)
- Night 4. ???
- Night 5. ???
Unjester (Amy): - Night 1. Visited Malakhiki, got rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2. Visited Chip & Ada, but ended up visiting herself (Bus Driver swapped Chip & Ada)
- Night 3. Visited the Soul, nothing happened
- Night 4. Visited Mitsuha, nothing happened
- Night 5. Visited Nellie, nothing happened
Kills and kill attempts - Night 1: Freddy (Investigator) was killed by dismemberment
- Night 2: Lloyd (Jailer) was killed by some kind of neck snap
- Night 3: Malakhiri attempted to kill Lotus, but Kondraki was able to redirect the attack to Z and prevent any kills that night
- Night 4: The cultists allegedly attempted to kill Red, but the Soul was allegedly able to save him through the Soul's role
- Night 5: Knuckles (Watcher) was killed by a stabbing
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For the first two times of darkness here, I remained in my room. On our third night, I chose to remember that I was very similar to Freddy, and as such took his investigational role. On the fourth night, I chose to investigate the Soul and Amy for a CPR specialist, but suffered from a musical hallucination. Last night, I only checked the Soul for the same thing, and learned that I was correct.
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...Hmmm. I'm thinking about what you just said, Red. We determined Amy wasn't the second Rickroller, Kondraki was, and he switched himself with Amy night four. So that does line up. That would corroborate your statement competely... if you had said it before anyone else had said anything about getting music when visiting Amy that night, and Kondraki said he'd switched himself and Amy. But you hadn't, you... hadn't really spoken up much at all that day. Still, you would need to be listening and noticing those things in order to get it correct.
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The Grand List Of Night Actions (Almost Complete Edition)Amnesiac (Red, also a Rickroller) - claims to have remembered being the Investigator on Night 3
Bulletproof (Z) - got targeted by the cultists on Night 3 through Kondraki's swapping
Bus Driver (Kondraki, also a Rickroller): - Night 1: Swapped Red and Malakhiri, got rickrolled
- Night 2: Swapped Chip & Ada and Amy
- Night 3: Swapped Z and Lotus
- Night 4: Swapped Kondraki and Amy, got rickrolled
- Night 5: Swapped Amy and Red, got rickrolled
CPR Doctor (Soul) - allegedly saved Red on Night 4
Commuter (Nellie) - commuted on Night 4, one commute remains
Coroner (Blue): - Night 1: N/A
- Night 2: Visited Freddy, who turned out to be the Investigator
- Night 3: Visited Lloyd, who turned out to be the Jailer
- Nights 4 and 5: ???, possibly did nothing since Malakhiri's death has rendered the Coroner's power as redundant
Fruit Vendors (Chip & Ada): - Night 1: Tried to send fruit to Amy, but instead ended up jailed
- Night 2: Sent fruit to Lotus
- Night 3: Tried to send sour grapes to Kondraki, but was instead sent to Malakhiri as a "Mod Error"
- Nights 4 and 5: Did nothing
Investigator (Freddy/Red):
Night 1: ???
Nights 2 and 3: N/A
Night 4: investigated Amy and Tainted Soul for the CPR Doctor, but was instead rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Kondraki and Amy)
Night 5: investigated Tainted Soul for the CPR Doctor, got a positive result
Jailer (Lloyd)
Night 1: Jailed Chip & Ada
Night 2: ???
Stalker (Lotus): - Night 1: Stalked Malakhiri, but got rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2: Stalked Knuckles, who visited Malakhiri
- Night 3: Stalked Amy, who visited Tainted Soul
- Night 4. ???
- Night 5. Stalked Knuckles, has not disclosed who Knuckles visited
Watcher (Knuckles): - Night 1. Watched Kondraki, who was visited by no one
- Night 2. Watched Malakhiri, who was also visited by no one
- Night 3. Tried to watch Lotus, but ended up watching Z instead, who was visited by Kondraki and Malakhiri (Bus Driver swapped Lotus and Z)
- Night 4. ???
- Night 5. ???
Unjester (Amy): - Night 1. Visited Malakhiki, got rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2. Visited Chip & Ada, but ended up visiting herself (Bus Driver swapped Chip & Ada)
- Night 3. Visited the Soul, nothing happened
- Night 4. Visited Mitsuha, nothing happened
- Night 5. Visited Nellie, nothing happened
Kills and kill attempts - Night 1: Freddy (Investigator) was killed by dismemberment
- Night 2: Lloyd (Jailer) was killed by some kind of neck snap
- Night 3: Malakhiri attempted to kill Lotus, but Kondraki was able to redirect the attack to Z and prevent any kills that night
- Night 4: The cultists allegedly attempted to kill Red, but the Soul was allegedly able to save him through the Soul's role
- Night 5: Knuckles (Watcher) was killed by a stabbing
"Can somebody tell me who Lotus and Knuckles visited on Night 4 and what they found out? Also, Lotus, who exactly did Knuckles visit last night?"
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"The echidna claimed he watched Amy Night 4, but got Bussed to Kondraki, who was the second Rickroller. He then visited Nellie tonight. I don't know if me watching him would guarantee that he succeeded, anyway... but I don't think that matters, since Nellie didn't end up Commuting.
Night 4, I visited Kondraki, who was swapping Amy and himself, as you already know. So, I got the result that Amy visited Mitsuha."
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...Hmm. Sorry if I seem to be meandering, I'm talking my thoughts out and trying to get them to make sense. It's... a technique. I'm also remembering now that we checked Red for any evidence of an attack on him, like Z had physical evidence of an attack, and there wasn't any. And then, does protecting Red on night four make sense for them to have done if they're innocent?... well, it somewhat does make sense, having just said they remembered being the Investigator, which is an important role. According to the rules, they could only do it once, and if they don't get targeted the subject dies... lucky for Red, if that's the case, that they were targeted. Someone would have to be very sure about who the cultists would target to use that role, wouldn't they? That would be... very lucky indeed that they chose correctly. Was Red really by far the most likely target that night?Maybe.
She takes another sip of hot chocolate.
...I do think one of the more potentially damaging pieces of evidence is the lack of evidence of an attack upon Red, given that we saw evidence of attack upon Z. Or CPR having been performed. I'm given to understand that's a messy business that would leave bruises at a minimum, and probably worse.
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"I'd think if Red is telling the truth about being an Investigator, that's an important role that the cultists would want gone so him being seen as a target would make sense. On the other hand, claiming they came after him because of that... but actually being a Wannabe and getting inducted into the cult... well, the 'they tried to kill me but the doctor saved me' would make a lot of sense as a cover story, and would cast doubt on his claims of having investigated the Soul and found them to be a doctor. Again, it's a good cover story but... not one that's easy to verify."
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Consider that the attack on me may have been subtle. I may have been smothered with a pillow, or taken some blow to the back of the head, something that might not show.
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"I doubt the rewards would outweigh the risks of sparing the Investigator. If he claims to be an Investigator, he would be able to sleuth out the Cultist in no time flat. However, if he was actually a Wannabe, he would have the power to earn himself time, then convict innocents."
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(08-10-2021, 16:50:25 PM)Magolor Wrote: "The echidna claimed he watched Amy Night 4, but got Bussed to Kondraki, who was the second Rickroller. He then visited Nellie tonight. I don't know if me watching him would guarantee that he succeeded, anyway... but I don't think that matters, since Nellie didn't end up Commuting.
Night 4, I visited Kondraki, who was swapping Amy and himself, as you already know. So, I got the result that Amy visited Mitsuha."
"If a stalker stalks a watcher who watches a commuter who commutes, the watcher will see nothing - not a lack of visitors, but nothing at all, because the commuter is gone, but the stalker will still see the watcher watching the commuter. Assuming, of course, that the commuter did commute - as you said, Nellie claims he didn't."
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"Plus, he could have claimed to investigate a suspected cultist and say he found out that they weren't one, as well as claiming to have investigated an innocent who roleclaimed and say 'yeah they were lying that's not their role'. It's a really good cover."
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"And... it's done!"
The Grand List Of Night ActionsAmnesiac (Red, also a Rickroller) - claims to have remembered being the Investigator on Night 3
Bulletproof (Z, confirmed through physical evidence and Knuckles) - got targeted by the cultists on Night 3 through Kondraki's swapping
Bus Driver (Kondraki, confirmed through multiple people's accounts lining up with each other, also a Rickroller): - Night 1: Swapped Red and Malakhiri, got rickrolled
- Night 2: Swapped Chip & Ada and Amy
- Night 3: Swapped Z and Lotus
- Night 4: Swapped Kondraki and Amy, got rickrolled
- Night 5: Swapped Amy and Red, got rickrolled
CPR Doctor (Soul) - allegedly saved Red on Night 4
Commuter (Nellie) - commuted on Night 4, one commute remains
Coroner (Blue): - Night 1: N/A
- Night 2: Visited Freddy, who turned out to be the Investigator
- Night 3: Visited Lloyd, who turned out to be the Jailer
- Nights 4 and 5: ???, possibly did nothing since Malakhiri's death has rendered the Coroner's power as redundant
Fruit Vendors (Chip & Ada, confirmed through "Mod Error"? idk): - Night 1: Tried to send fruit to Amy, but was instead jailed
- Night 2: Sent fruit to Lotus
- Night 3: Tried to send sour grapes to Kondraki, but was instead sent to Malakhiri as a "Mod Error"
- Nights 4 and 5: Did nothing
Investigator (Freddy, possibly confirmed by Blue/Red): - Night 1: ???
- Nights 2 and 3: N/A
- Night 4: tried to investigate Amy and Tainted Soul for the CPR Doctor, but ended up investigating Kondraki instead of Amy and was rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Kondraki and Amy)
- Night 5: investigated Tainted Soul for the CPR Doctor, got a positive result
Jailer (Lloyd, possibly confirmed by Blue) - Night 1: Jailed Chip & Ada
- Night 2: ???
Stalker (Lotus, confirmed by Kondraki and Knuckles): - Night 1: Tried to stalk Malakhiri, but instead ended up stalking Red and was rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2: Stalked Knuckles, who visited Malakhiri
- Night 3: Stalked Amy, who visited Tainted Soul
- Night 4. Tried to stalk Kondraki, but instead ended up stalking Amy, who visited Mitsuha (Bus Driver swapped Kondraki and Amy)
- Night 5. Stalked Knuckles, who visited Nellie
Watcher (Knuckles, confirmed): - Night 1. Watched Kondraki, who was visited by no one
- Night 2. Watched Malakhiri, who was also visited by no one
- Night 3. Tried to watch Lotus, but ended up watching Z instead, who was visited by Kondraki and Malakhiri (Bus Driver swapped Lotus and Z)
- Night 4. Tried to watch Amy, but ended up watching Kondraki instead and was rickrolled
- Night 5. ???, but presumably watched Nellie, who was presumably visited by Amy
Unjester (Amy): - Night 1. Tried to visit Malakhiki, but end up visiting Red instead and got rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2. Tried to visit Chip & Ada, but ended up visiting herself instead (how is that possible?) (Bus Driver swapped Chip & Ada)
- Night 3. Visited the Soul, nothing happened
- Night 4. Visited Mitsuha, nothing happened
- Night 5. Visited Nellie, nothing happened
Kills and kill attempts - Night 1: Freddy (Investigator) was killed by dismemberment
- Night 2: Lloyd (Jailer) was killed by some kind of neck snap
- Night 3: Malakhiri attempted to kill Lotus, but Kondraki was able to redirect the attack to Z and prevent any kills that night
- Night 4: The cultists allegedly attempted to kill Red, but the Soul was allegedly able to save him through the Soul's role
- Night 5: Knuckles (Watcher) was killed by a stabbing
"Hm... everything seems to line up at first glance, and that's the problem. Somebody's lying, and from what I have determined, it's either the Soul, Blue, Amy, or... me, with Red also possibly being a cultist. Does anybody else notice anything strange about this that I'm noticing because woo, my brain is kind of overloaded right now and I'm now going on another tangent. Sorry for that."
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...Yes, either way the cult wins, in that scenario. Provided they're not in fact blocked by the CPR Doctor. It might in fact be a situation the real doctor would act on.
Hmmm. Did you ever say what you did night 4, Lotus, and what the result was?
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Ada then sees Nellie's updated list.
...Oh. Right. Lotus tried to stalk Kondraki, but got Amy, who visited Mitsuha.
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Um. One more question, Life, actually. Cultists aren't shown visiting other cultists for, mmm, consuting I guess, are they? It doesn't *seem* like they are, but Malakhiri was a Rickroller, and nobody watched or stalked Mitsuha.
...It seems, if this is the case, Amy looks quite cleared by Lotus seeing her visit Tainted Soul Night three and Mitsuha Night four. Lotus has been confirmed by known innocents, yes? ...In fact, simple numbers seems to clear her most likely anyway, as it seems unlikely both the Soul and Amy are cultists, given there can only be two cultists left if one of them is actually the Amnesiac and remembered Wannabe, and Red isn't actually an Amnesiac in that case.
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"Think about it... if I was the Rolecop, what would I gain by visiting Mitsuha? I would've known from the start she was a cultist, which we all knew anyway after the Mason lie. Only person who'd have a reason to visit a cultist and not do anything is someone who'd want to be targeted by them."
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Amy is correct, her innocence is extraordinarliy likely.
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"I'll give Amy the benefit of the doubt, then. I don't think she's a cultist, either." Nellie flips over the paper he wrote his list of night actions on and then writes something else on the other side, this time it being a list of who is and who isn't a cultist.
The Grand List Of Night ActionsAmnesiac (Red, also a Rickroller) - claims to have remembered being the Investigator on Night 3
Bulletproof (Z, confirmed through physical evidence and Knuckles) - got targeted by the cultists on Night 3 through Kondraki's swapping
Bus Driver (Kondraki, confirmed through multiple people's accounts lining up with each other, also a Rickroller): - Night 1: Swapped Red and Malakhiri, got rickrolled
- Night 2: Swapped Chip & Ada and Amy
- Night 3: Swapped Z and Lotus
- Night 4: Swapped Kondraki and Amy, got rickrolled
- Night 5: Swapped Amy and Red, got rickrolled
CPR Doctor (Soul) - allegedly saved Red on Night 4
Commuter (Nellie) - commuted on Night 4, one commute remains
Coroner (Blue): - Night 1: N/A
- Night 2: Visited Freddy, who turned out to be the Investigator
- Night 3: Visited Lloyd, who turned out to be the Jailer
- Nights 4 and 5: ???, possibly did nothing since Malakhiri's death has rendered the Coroner's power as redundant
Fruit Vendors (Chip & Ada, confirmed through "Mod Error"? idk): - Night 1: Tried to send fruit to Amy, but was instead jailed
- Night 2: Sent fruit to Lotus
- Night 3: Tried to send sour grapes to Kondraki, but was instead sent to Malakhiri as a "Mod Error"
- Nights 4 and 5: Did nothing
Investigator (Freddy, possibly confirmed by Blue/Red): - Night 1: ???
- Nights 2 and 3: N/A
- Night 4: tried to investigate Amy and Tainted Soul for the CPR Doctor, but ended up investigating Kondraki instead of Amy and was rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Kondraki and Amy)
- Night 5: investigated Tainted Soul for the CPR Doctor, got a positive result
Jailer (Lloyd, possibly confirmed by Blue) - Night 1: Jailed Chip & Ada
- Night 2: ???
Stalker (Lotus, confirmed by Kondraki and Knuckles): - Night 1: Tried to stalk Malakhiri, but instead ended up stalking Red and was rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2: Stalked Knuckles, who visited Malakhiri
- Night 3: Stalked Amy, who visited Tainted Soul
- Night 4. Tried to stalk Kondraki, but instead ended up stalking Amy, who visited Mitsuha (Bus Driver swapped Kondraki and Amy)
- Night 5. Stalked Knuckles, who visited Nellie
Watcher (Knuckles, confirmed): - Night 1. Watched Kondraki, who was visited by no one
- Night 2. Watched Malakhiri, who was also visited by no one
- Night 3. Tried to watch Lotus, but ended up watching Z instead, who was visited by Kondraki and Malakhiri (Bus Driver swapped Lotus and Z)
- Night 4. Tried to watch Amy, but ended up watching Kondraki instead and was rickrolled
- Night 5. ???, but presumably watched Nellie, who was presumably visited by Amy
Unjester (Amy, very likely confirmed): - Night 1. Tried to visit Malakhiki, but end up visiting Red instead and got rickrolled (Bus Driver swapped Malakhiri and Red)
- Night 2. Tried to visit Chip & Ada, but ended up visiting herself instead (how is that possible?) (Bus Driver swapped Chip & Ada)
- Night 3. Visited the Soul, nothing happened
- Night 4. Visited Mitsuha, nothing happened
- Night 5. Visited Nellie, nothing happened
Kills and kill attempts - Night 1: Freddy (Investigator) was killed by dismemberment
- Night 2: Lloyd (Jailer) was killed by some kind of neck snap
- Night 3: Malakhiri attempted to kill Lotus, but Kondraki was able to redirect the attack to Z and prevent any kills that night
- Night 4: The cultists allegedly attempted to kill Red, but the Soul was allegedly able to save him through the Soul's role
- Night 5: Knuckles (Watcher) was killed by a stabbing
Innocents, Cultists, and the UnconfirmedConfirmed to be innocent- Freddy (dead, likely Investigator)
- Lloyd (dead, likely Jailer)
- Knuckles (dead, Watcher)
- Kondraki (Bus Driver, pretty much confirmed by Knuckles during the Night 3 fiasco. Also a Rickroller.)
- Lotus (Stalker, per Malakhiri's botched attempt to kill her on Night 3)
- Chip & Ada (Fruit Vendors, nobody else has claimed be a fruit vendor, and the "Mod Error" pretty much confirms it)
- Z (Bulletproof, per physical evidence and Knuckles)
- Amy (Unjester, I presume that the cultists communicate through magic, so why would a cultist visit one of their own if they don't want to be caught?)
Not confirmed to be innocent- The Soul (claims to be the CPR Doctor, but wouldn't that be the perfect cover for inducting a Wannabe into the Death Coven?)
- Red (Amnesiac, claims to have remembered being the Investigator, but might have actually remembered being the Wannabe if the Soul is a cultist. Also a Rickroller.)
- Nellie (claims to be the Commuter, all attempts to confirm my role have seemingly been foiled by the cultists, but I got the feeling that I'm going to end up framed somehow)
- Blue (claims to be the Coroner, less likely to be a cultist then the other people but I'm still putting on this list just in case)
Cultists- Malakhiri (Janitor, claimed to be Masons with Mitsuha)
- Mitsuha (actually, I don't know her role, but she did claim to be Masons with Malakhiri)
- Jean (Wannabe, claimed to be Bulletproof)
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(08-10-2021, 17:48:48 PM)PointMaid Wrote: Um. One more question, Life, actually. Cultists aren't shown visiting other cultists for, mmm, consuting I guess, are they? It doesn't *seem* like they are, but Malakhiri was a Rickroller, and nobody watched or stalked Mitsuha.
"Nah, Life's gifts don't show you when my children are just casually talking among themselves."
"... not that I'm complaining, but why are you just telling them that?"
"That's for me to know and you to find out~"
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Um, yeah, that's what I thought. I think that does pretty much clear Amy, doesn't it?
...I'm not sure I like what it says that it's Death that was eager enough to answer that one, though.
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"...Just what I thought. The most suspicious ones... are Soul and Red."
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...The only one we have physical evidence for is the Soul, too, with the bone chips in the closet the night Lloyd was killed with magic. I seem to remember when we looked for bone chips another time, there weren't any new ones, were there. So it doesn't seem to be something that's just constantly happening to them.
...And I know we have footprints. But we've all discussed how we don't know that they weren't planted, or last night's murder could have been done by their accomplice. I don't want to think it of a little kid, but...
...Has anyone seen the little ghost? Maybe they have something to say in their defense?
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"They seem to hide in that closet a lot; that's where they were when I visited the one night."
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"The little soul has been suspiciously quiet ever since we started to suspect them. Why have they gone quiet? I don't want to prosecute them, but..."
> are the bone chippings from a couple of days ago still there, and if they are, then are there any new bone chippings?
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