07-25-2022, 15:04:19 PM
Yes Florien, we know you always want to be leaded and distrust anyone who goes against your plan. (Well, many of your characters in murdergames do which is why we butt heads IC in a lot of them.) And it's always hard to tell whether this is you-as-town wanting to put forth what (at least in your opinion) is the best strategy (which is fine when your judgments are correct even if it often throws people who don't have active roles under the bus). Or if it's you-as-scum trying to put forth these plans as "yes listen to me everything I say is correct" while you're cackling behind the scenes as all of the innocents topple like dominoes. It makes you quite dangerous in games like this, especially when it's difficult to know which of these strategies are in play.
Anyway, a few things.
The busdriver claim, for one. If this is true and Geek swapped someone night 1 I'm curious to know who it was. Even if at most it screwed up an investigation result or something since it was a no-kill night (and i'm not sure we even have an investigative role present but since that's sort of a staple of these games it may be more a matter of figuring out who it is. As for how the name could lead to such a role, that's on Ten's creativity when looking at the names and assigning roles. It could do with using art to deceive. Optical illusions and such (or just because "illustrator" and "illusionist" start with the same five letters but that's probably a stretch, lol). But for now Geek hasn't done anything to set off sus-dar yet.
Nebula still seems okay to me, I am curious about what kind of role she has. It could be based on the "Lieutenant" part rather than the "Light" part, come to think of it. Again one of those things that could go either way in terms of alignment but she does seem to be trying to help. I also wonder if the meme vote thing was deeper than it seemed at first glance and designed to gauge people's reactions and see who might jump on a ridiculous bandwagon. It certainly wouldn't be the first time someone tried a strategy of "see how people react to a thing" in a Mafia game.
I am also curious as to who Whistle's godchild is, although I can definitely understand if they don't want to come forward. That's one of the things with the "okay everybody roleclaim now because I will know who's lying" strategy; besides the obvious "scum will lie" thing (which is understandable and expected with the strategy) I can see good power roles not wanting to out themselves day 1 and becoming a target for a scum kill. (It's a thing I've been concerned with in murdergames at least, though the time it screwed me over I was third-party and the time it almost did I was just vanilla and it became "target the vanillas because the scum will claim to be one of them". So maybe I'm just salty, lol.)
All that said I'm not sure about Matt's claims either, although his defensiveness also reminds me of times he's been wrongly accused in the past in murdergames. So I'm not sure.
Smily is just confusing me, and he hasn't really posted enough to clarify that confusion. I'm not sure this isn't some sort of strategy though, remembering the last Mafia game where he won as Werewolf (which my dumb ass didn't detect because the only scum my cop role could've detected was Mafia). But he's been sneakier in these games than he seems and despite the "I want to help both sides" claim or whatever it is he's on my radar.
Feelings on Lav have not changed, possibly because their claim seems believable (and they haven't been around much) and MP hasn't been around enough to judge either.
(and yes before anyone says anything I know that Mafia and murdergames aren't exactly the same thing, but since a lot of the recent murdergames have had a heavier focus on social deduction I'm mostly just removing the "well this part of it is the character being roleplayed" lens and looking at how some of the people who have been in both this game and recent murdergames try to strategize and use deduction, which are the elements common to both.)
Anyway, a few things.
The busdriver claim, for one. If this is true and Geek swapped someone night 1 I'm curious to know who it was. Even if at most it screwed up an investigation result or something since it was a no-kill night (and i'm not sure we even have an investigative role present but since that's sort of a staple of these games it may be more a matter of figuring out who it is. As for how the name could lead to such a role, that's on Ten's creativity when looking at the names and assigning roles. It could do with using art to deceive. Optical illusions and such (or just because "illustrator" and "illusionist" start with the same five letters but that's probably a stretch, lol). But for now Geek hasn't done anything to set off sus-dar yet.
Nebula still seems okay to me, I am curious about what kind of role she has. It could be based on the "Lieutenant" part rather than the "Light" part, come to think of it. Again one of those things that could go either way in terms of alignment but she does seem to be trying to help. I also wonder if the meme vote thing was deeper than it seemed at first glance and designed to gauge people's reactions and see who might jump on a ridiculous bandwagon. It certainly wouldn't be the first time someone tried a strategy of "see how people react to a thing" in a Mafia game.
I am also curious as to who Whistle's godchild is, although I can definitely understand if they don't want to come forward. That's one of the things with the "okay everybody roleclaim now because I will know who's lying" strategy; besides the obvious "scum will lie" thing (which is understandable and expected with the strategy) I can see good power roles not wanting to out themselves day 1 and becoming a target for a scum kill. (It's a thing I've been concerned with in murdergames at least, though the time it screwed me over I was third-party and the time it almost did I was just vanilla and it became "target the vanillas because the scum will claim to be one of them". So maybe I'm just salty, lol.)
All that said I'm not sure about Matt's claims either, although his defensiveness also reminds me of times he's been wrongly accused in the past in murdergames. So I'm not sure.
Smily is just confusing me, and he hasn't really posted enough to clarify that confusion. I'm not sure this isn't some sort of strategy though, remembering the last Mafia game where he won as Werewolf (which my dumb ass didn't detect because the only scum my cop role could've detected was Mafia). But he's been sneakier in these games than he seems and despite the "I want to help both sides" claim or whatever it is he's on my radar.
Feelings on Lav have not changed, possibly because their claim seems believable (and they haven't been around much) and MP hasn't been around enough to judge either.
(and yes before anyone says anything I know that Mafia and murdergames aren't exactly the same thing, but since a lot of the recent murdergames have had a heavier focus on social deduction I'm mostly just removing the "well this part of it is the character being roleplayed" lens and looking at how some of the people who have been in both this game and recent murdergames try to strategize and use deduction, which are the elements common to both.)
Stupid doomed timeline...