LETS GOOOOOOOO (General hangout thread)

[madface7]

who long dragon?

[Whistle]

eco?

no

probably autumn or somn

[Clancy]

Fun fact: The term "Radical Feminist" refers to a kind of feminism that holds the idea that there is something essentially sexist about men. The term TERF refers to Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists, who also believe (in addition to the aforementioned belief) that transgender women are not real women. However, while most TE feminists are Radical Feminists, if a TE feminist does not believe that men are inherently sexist they are not TERFs. Theoretically, there can also be TELFs (Trans-Exclusionary Libertarian Feminists), TECFs (Trans-Exclusionary Conservative Feminists), and TEMFs (Trans-Exclusionary Marxist Feminists). However, there are no TEPFs (Trans-Exclusionary Postmodernist Feminists), as Postmodernist Feminism is always in support of transgenders.

This has been today's edition of Clancy's Fun Facts.

[Whistle]

i wanna kick transphobes into space

so they become astroTERFs

[Clancy]

i wanna kick transphobes into space

so they become astroTERFs

Or astroTECFs (for example), although that would ruin the pun.

[Whistle]

quackpth

[madface7]

ugh im stuck on the last part of my homework, can anyone please help me

im doing a graphic organizer based on two articles about capital punishment and i need to list the logical fallacies present in both arguments

[Whistle]

what are they about

[madface7]

the death penalty

and why it is either DEFINITELY 100% WRONG and DEFINITELY 100% RIGHT

there's no gray areas in these things

[Whistle]

if you're looking for logical fallacies then maybe you should try to understand what makes their arguments unconvincing

maybe a compare-and-contrast sort of thing? check the evidence used?

[madface7]

there's a lot of arguments that say something is bad without really explaining why

[Whistle]

That in and of itself is a logical fallacy; not supporting things with evidence, which leads to jumping to conclusions and opinions unbased in reality.

[Kennifer]

waiting for THINGS to happen

[Whistle]

so am i

[Whistle]

i wonder if my cat has gender dysphoria

apparently they can take some of the mental illnesses of their owners

[Kennifer]

I don't think Dusty knows or cares what "gender" even is lol

[madface7]

i finished it

i finished my work

[Clancy]

i wonder if my cat has gender dysphoria

apparently they can take some of the mental illnesses of their owners

Even if cats have a concept of gender separate from sex, I'm not sure how a cat would perceive gender dysphoria in their owner, let alone develop similar symptoms.

However, I can definitely see how pets would perceive and reflect some mental illnesses, such as depression, mania, obsessive-compulsiveness et cetera.

[Whistle]

i remember a book my parents got me called "All cats have Asperger's," and it was honestly the first thing that made me realize I was autistic.

[madface7]

Is gender dysphoria really even a mental illness though?

[Whistle]

Is gender dysphoria really even a mental illness though?

I don't know, I was just looking at a meme on r/traa that basically made that comparison somewhat facetiously.

[Kennifer]

I know if I seem extra stressed or sad about something Dusty seems to be extra concerned about me, which is adorable. And comforting.

[Clancy]

Is gender dysphoria really even a mental illness though?

It's definitely a disorder insofar as it causes significant distress in those who have it, often causes impaired functioning, is psychologically unusual, and may result in self-destructive behavior or impulses. In other words, distress, disability, deviance, and danger, the four Ds of a mental disorder.

I'm not entirely sure about the relation between gender dysphoria and being transgender, though.

[Clancy]

Okay, just did some research on gender dysphoria and although it's definitely distressing and deviant (in the psychological sense, not the moral sense), I'm not really sure whether it's disabilitating or dangerous. In addition, there seems to be a fair bit of controversy about the classification of the condition itself - the diagnostic label "gender identity disorder" (GID) was used until 2013 with the release of the DSM-5, and renamed to remove the stigma associated with the term "disorder", according to Wikipedia. There's more details in that article.

Seems most of the controversy is about whether or not gender dysphoria is equivalent to being transgender, and thus whether the classification of gender dysphoria as an illness should be changed.

[Whistle]

this is post #4444

also it definitely makes sense

i don't think it's dangerous or disabilitating, as gender dysphoria only really affects the mind and its image of the body

as a trans girl, like, being in a male body can be somewhat hard; but, let's be honest, people can have different functions of gender dysphoria as they can autism