03-02-2021, 17:14:17 PM
yippie-kee-yi-kee-ya-hee-aye-ki-oh
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LETS GOOOOOOOO (General hangout thread)
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03-02-2021, 17:15:17 PM
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
You know that time I wrote a song about cancel culture? Guess who cancel culture just hit? Dr. Seuss
why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food
03-02-2021, 17:15:54 PM
(03-02-2021, 17:15:17 PM)Dookie Wrote: UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH what You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby.
^ 6 of his books wont be published anymore for "Racist Imagery"
WHY THE FUCK IS "IF I RAN THE ZOO" RACIST?
why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food
03-02-2021, 17:17:43 PM
We've established that:
* This is old news, people have known about this for forever * It was a different time, almost everyone was racist back then * There's no reason to boycott him, he's dead * He's shown lots of signs of changing his ways
03-02-2021, 17:22:27 PM
Why the fuck are they boycotting a dead man?
What could possibly justify banning his books? (03-02-2021, 17:22:27 PM)madface7 Wrote: Why the fuck are they boycotting a dead man? And it's not just boycotting or banning for a school curriculum, 6 of his most famous books are NEVER going to be published again by the book company.
why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food
03-02-2021, 17:48:52 PM
Mornin!
why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food
 
03-02-2021, 17:58:15 PM
Good morning, CutBug.
Good morning, hangout thread. Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives. When he isn't around he leaves an awful hole, doesn't he?
03-02-2021, 18:04:55 PM
meowning everynyan
i.............. should eat food and also WE ARE INTRODUCING A DIFFERENT MODE, CALLED GO AND TAKE A SHOWER
nya
meowning, pinioned feline female
03-02-2021, 18:10:46 PM
in the days of my youth
i was told what it means to be a man now i've reached that age but i'm a girl, so you might call me a tran You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby.
03-02-2021, 19:13:16 PM
so i just finished my little art thingy for the whole rigamarole with my community theater
You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby.
03-02-2021, 19:14:05 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2021, 19:15:17 PM by wingedcatgirl.)
Catchign up on the Seuss story...
The books getting their runs ended seem to all be because of racial stereotypes, none of which look like they were intended maliciously but are definitely super fuckign embarrassing nowadays, so of course the publishers might want to disassociate with them "Mulberry Street" centers around a stereotypical image of a "Rajah". "If I Ran the Zoo" is definitely pretty bad, with: * the Asian caricature of "helpers who all wear their eyes at a slant" * some Middle-Eastern "chieftain" caricature that I'm not quite sure what it's even supposed to be but suggests putting him in the zoo too which is like wtf * the "African island of Yerka" African caricature * something about "eight Persian princes" * a Russian stereotype? is that problematic or is it okay to make fun of Russia "McElligot's Pool" has brief depictions of "Eskimo fish" (the word "Eskimo" is highly contentious) and a random depiction of someone from Tibet; I kinda feel like these are small enough issues to be edited instead of deleting the book for good "On Beyond Zebra" has whatever this Nazzim of Bazzim bit is supposed to be "Scrambled Eggs Super" has a few racial stereotypes in the illustrations, which again I feel like could've been edited instead of ending the book entirely "The Cat's Quizzer" has "how old do you have to be to be a Japanese", which could've just been edited it's literally a one-letter word? But that's just what I spotted on a quick skim of the books, any of them could have more issues I missed. If Dr. Seuss were still alive today, he could probably easily edit all the books to be fine and not racist, but he's not, so the publisher's choice is basically "get someone else to edit Dr. Seuss's work for sensitivity, possibly writing substantial segments of all new stuff from scratch", "leave it as-is, publishing books known to contain offensive depictions", or "remove them entirely", all of which could be a PR nightmare from one direction or another.
nya
03-02-2021, 19:21:17 PM
(03-02-2021, 19:14:05 PM)wingedcatgirl Wrote: If Dr. Seuss were still alive today, he could probably easily edit all the books to be fine and not racist, but he's not, so the publisher's choice is basically "get someone else to edit Dr. Seuss's work for sensitivity, possibly writing substantial segments of all new stuff from scratch", "leave it as-is, publishing books known to contain offensive depictions", or "remove them entirely", all of which could be a PR nightmare from one direction or another. I'd probably have made an edited version, especially with the tiny things such as "a Japanese," but some of them I'd say should probably be left as-is as relics of the past. You know where you are? You're in the jungle baby.
03-02-2021, 19:34:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2021, 19:36:49 PM by wingedcatgirl.)
Yeah, some of them would be easy fixes, I think. And some of them would definitely not be. "Mulberry Street" would need a complete rewrite and redraw of the second half or so, even though the actual premise is harmless. And I'm not sure Seuss himself could have saved "If I Ran the Zoo".
nya
03-02-2021, 19:34:41 PM
I agree with Whistle on this one. I don't care if publishing companies get flak over not publishing Dr. Seuss, since I value preserving historically significant pieces of literature more than I value these corporations' profit margins. You shouldn't try to whitewash the past.
In other news, my cat Cleopatra is being kinda... zoomy. Strange, isn't it? Each man's life touches so many other lives. When he isn't around he leaves an awful hole, doesn't he?
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