05-01-2021, 19:51:19 PM
I'd think if it was like... bloody/oily/greasy handprints or something that'd leave a mark, or if it was rough enough to cause bruising then yes but... regular handprints especially with someone wearing gloves, how would an ordinary layperson (like the vast majority of murdergames characters) even notice someone had say, had their shoulder touched or whatever unless a lot of force was used?
Like no, not all kills should be evidence-free (other than the Ninja type roles obviously) but between "yes this is obviously so-and-so's fingerprint and you can tell this with your untrained eye" and the roles that can watch people at night (or the night patrol, or whatever) ESPECIALLY if they can see enough to identify a particular person... kinda gets broken in favor of townies. (I mean yes doing stuff at night is fun but it works better if you don't get the full details. "You see a person enter X room" or "Someone humanoid and tall does Y" or whatever, keep some of the mystery.
To note I am not just saying this 'cause Amanda got outed as scum so quickly; it's less fun as town too if it's too obvious who the killer is, especially early in the game. Like I think this is something that worked well enough with BiA; the clues from the first kill pointing at a couple different people made the first investigation more exciting. And then on the second day since the wrong person got hammered, we had someone we were suspicious of so having clues point at that person then made sense. (Plus, BiA having scum roles that can forge evidence makes it less obvious for townies without tipping it too far in the other direction.)
Like no, not all kills should be evidence-free (other than the Ninja type roles obviously) but between "yes this is obviously so-and-so's fingerprint and you can tell this with your untrained eye" and the roles that can watch people at night (or the night patrol, or whatever) ESPECIALLY if they can see enough to identify a particular person... kinda gets broken in favor of townies. (I mean yes doing stuff at night is fun but it works better if you don't get the full details. "You see a person enter X room" or "Someone humanoid and tall does Y" or whatever, keep some of the mystery.
To note I am not just saying this 'cause Amanda got outed as scum so quickly; it's less fun as town too if it's too obvious who the killer is, especially early in the game. Like I think this is something that worked well enough with BiA; the clues from the first kill pointing at a couple different people made the first investigation more exciting. And then on the second day since the wrong person got hammered, we had someone we were suspicious of so having clues point at that person then made sense. (Plus, BiA having scum roles that can forge evidence makes it less obvious for townies without tipping it too far in the other direction.)
Stupid doomed timeline...