[Mafia] Close Circle 2

[Kennifer]

"If we vote and get the Yarddog, awesome, we're done with this bullshit. If we vote wrong, we're down a Capper today and another tonight. If we skip we don't lose anyone today but lose a Capper tonight. Right?"

Mila was going to think about this a bit before making a decision.

[Caret]

"Keep in <Your Pathetic Heads> that if we <Yay/Ney/Abstain>, the <Grim Reaper> won't get <Epitome of Hyperviolence>'s money! If we <Miscarriage of Justice> again, then the <WANTED: Rabid Dog> might get enough <Papergold> to buy <Illegal Weapons, Straight From DarkFourm.moc> or worse... Just <Warning: Buffer Overlord> you kids!"

[Cassie]

...alright, lets just abstain. At the very least not even the Yarddog will be able to get any money to use to further fucking confound us. And it's better than trying to narrow down via elimination.

/skip vote

[Mr. Lee Hammer]

Vote

Skip (Tyler)

Three to move on to day phase

[Florien]

Cool whatever

I mean obviously we should skip, because Rambo's money gets lost whether we get the killer or not. Though uhh... nah, nevermind.

/skip

[PopcornPie]

"God, you guys are scaredy-cats." Lucky rolled his eyes. "Anyway, this looks like graphite. I'd touch it, but it'd be caught in me bandages. Don't breathe it, it might be the stuff that clogs your lungs. Or latex." He kept trying to piece everything together. John's killer shot his forehead through the window with a rifle, killed some Cappers with another rifle, pulled out teeth to form a necklace, used some dust and drain cleaner in a blender to liquify his remains, had sausages, and then turned in for the night? Nothing added up right. Maybe some of the part of the story were extraneous?

"What if we've overthought this, lads? Maybe we're looking at too many things at once. The killer might not have even been using this blender."

[Florien]

Lindsey makes an exasperated noise.

So if we've overthought this, then who's the killer, Lucky? It doesn't matter how the situation's thought about, there's a lot of options for where that train of thought leads and I intend to make fairly safe choices here.

If you assume every bit of evidence is a lie, that leaves us nowhere. If you assume some of it is a lie, that leaves us wherever you assume that the evidence stops being a lie, which is literally anywhere. If you assume none of it is a lie, then apparently everyone did it.

So what point are you proposing we declare all evidence after a lie? Who's your suspect? Or are you just trying to play devil's advocate with no actual suspect? Because if you're doing that, that's not actually helpful. This isn't a question of fear, it's a question of "which is most advantageous for us." The most advantageous option is to not execute, unless you have good reasoning. I'll lay it out for you.

Lindsey holds up one finger.

Option one. We execute and hit the killer. Woo, we win. Wow. Cool.

Lindsey holds up a second finger.

Option two. We execute and hit someone other than the killer. The killer gets all of Rambo's money and a free kill. That sucks.

Then a third.

Option three. We do not execute. The killer gets no extra money.

Lindsey puts their hand down.

So, you have to decide, when does the value of the chance of instant victory outweigh the chance of dumping money on the killer and giving them a free kill?

[PopcornPie]

"No! I just think some of these things may have been unrelated. We literally lost someone to a car accident yesterday, that's the whole reason Tyler is here! For all we know, the dead Cappers didn't have shit to do with Rambo's death." He folded his ears back. "Are you really willing to just give up and risk getting killed tonight?"

//I just don't wanna risk getting murdered next night ehe

[Florien]

I mean, there's a very real risk of getting killed tonight even if we do execute. It's hardly giving up to make the...

Actually, that argument makes even...

okay holy fuck I spotted a perverse incentive there.

Because basically, if "I don't want to get killed so I want to execute someone", is your argument, it's actually in your second best interest in a low-visibility scenario, like this one, to execute a known innocent deliberately because then the killer will be like "ha you're worth keeping alive for a bit longer".

Anyway, that argument is silly. If you have an actual suspect, vote for them, but if you don't actually have any ideas, we can wait for tomorrow and either the killer will conveniently fall off a building and die or they'll leave enough evidence to get caught. We're in a very good position and can afford a skip more than we can afford a bad execution. Anyway, if nothing happens for another 20ish hours, no one gets executed anyway.

[PopcornPie]

The rabbit sputtered, pawing the charred floor. Could he really prove that certain aspects to the case were unrelated? Not any more than Lindsay could prove that they were all related. Not that he really gave a shit about voting someone innocent, it was himself he was concerned for. At the end of the day, he was smallest, easiest to catch and kill. 'Course he'd want to take out the killer as soon as possible so that wouldn't happen. But to act on impulse and pick a suspect meant taking more lives than necessary, possibly even showing how easily manipulated Lucky could be. "Fine. But we all better watch our backs. 'Specially whoever takes this powder with them, because you know what this also could be? Combustible dust. You throw it in the air, it blows the fuck up. Would explain how this place caught fire."

[Florien]

I don't think we need to explain how the building burned down when we know a molotov hit it, but uhh...

Anyway, it's in the killer's best interest to encourage an execution right now. So purely numerically speaking, no execution is best for us right now. That puts us to 3-1, where we can no longer afford a mistake, but we do have a little room to move with an emergency gunshot, assuming someone has the money if we make that mistake. To miseliminate now, we're brought to 2-1 tomorrow, where we categorically cannot afford a mistake and cannot be saved by a last-minute shot.

[PopcornPie]

"Right. It's best to keep outnumberin' the killer for now. I dunno what you plan to do if they murder someone else tomorrow night, though."

> Votes to skip

[Florien]

Well of course they're going to murder someone. They're going to murder someone every night until they WIN or we kill them first.

It's mathematically better for us to not execute today if we don't think we have a good chance of nailing the killer right out. But good decision on your part to skip. Unless you end up dead because of it, which would... presumably suck. I wouldn't know, I haven't been killed before.

[Caret]

"Alright. Alright alright alright alright alright. Let's <Abstain>, kids!"

/vote skip

[Florien]

Oh cool guess we've skipped.

Alright, "sick" as apparently people said and say.

Anyone know what "challenge-and-by-challenge-I-mean-dangerous-job-which-may-lead-to-death" they're going to do next?

Wait actually we already skipped with Lucky, there's five of us so three to confirm anything. Same tomorrow.

[Mr. Lee Hammer]

Four votes to skip, that's more than enough. No one will be getting executed today. Which means no one will be getting Rambo's money.

Sparxxx then heads over to the meat-making machine where he drops Rambo's money into. He turns it on and after a few seconds, shredded greens spit out of the machine.

With that out of the way, work will be prepared for you all shortly.

[PopcornPie]

"I've been killed before. Multiple times. You wouldn't like it, even if you just respawned five seconds later." He remembered what Cookie said, that she'd respawn in some other place. Made him wonder if he was continuing to live in a reality hosted by Van Tastic. Maybe he never really left Hell after all.

Even though the money was shredded, he wouldn't let this go. No killer would get one over him for long.

[Cassie]

Okay, and? Is all Tyler responded Lucky with.

...until he followed up with: Is that relevant to the pressing matter at hand, Lucky? Huh?

[PopcornPie]

"Yeah. Getting murdered isn't cool."

[Kennifer]

"Not voting's for the best, yeah. Without clear evidence or... whatever kinda social logic that'd make someone stand out as suspicious, the odds of gettin' a Yarddog are pretty low. And we're all doing pretty shitty at that random chance bullshit today."

lol I was asleep when the lack of hammer fell

[PopcornPie]

"Thing is, they did a real good job at makin' it look like it could've been any one of us."

[Mr. Lee Hammer]

None of you might have won Rambo's money, but you still have a chance to earn some more cash to find out who's the last Yarddog among you. Though I will say if any of you tie for first place again, don't expect two or more people to go to my den this time. I will give you all one extra task should we end up coming to that stop. But we'll worry about that if we come to it. Time to go to work.

(Remember, you can only do one challenge every day and each challenge can only be done once by each player, so choose carefully which one you'd like to do)

DEADLINE IS THURSDAY, MARCH 17 AT 9 PM CST

Challenge 1: Participate in the assassination of one of Kane's high-ranking people (Completed by TYLER, LINDSEY, STEVE, ̶S̶T̶R̶A̶W̶B̶E̶R̶R̶Y̶, MILA)

 

Time to hit the Yarddogs where it hurts them the most. They ended up killing B-Daw, now it's time to take out one of their higher-ranking members. Kane is laying low for the time being, but we can definitely hit them all where it hurts. And believe me, I know exactly where I can hurt them. One of Jebidiah's top people: Kendra. Kendra is like the eyes and ears of the streets. She can easily have the jump on anyone, anywhere, anytime. She easily can get the gang some strong weaponry and knowledge that could be detrimental to us all. Knock her off, and it will be one less thorn on our side.

1.      See Emery for weapons and equipment that you need.

2.      Go around Los Capucha into Yarddog territory and scope the area out until you discover Kendra.

3.      Take out Kendra without gaining the attention of the Yarddogs.

4.      Get out of the territory before the Yarddogs notice your presence and go after you.

Challenge 2: Distribute drug supply to the city of Singleton (COMPLETED BY MILA , ̶S̶P̶A̶M̶T̶O̶N̶)

We've got to venture out beyond the hood. Go right into the city of Singleton itself. That's where all the money lies, player. You can only squeeze so much out of Los Capucha. You have to think big. See, all my own drugs, the weed, the crack, all the goods, manufactured it all myself. Something I work on constantly because the drugs make good money, you feel me? So I want you all to go out there and sell some of this merchandise, bring in the dough, and try not to get caught by the police. It is kind of a hassle to use my connections to get you free if you all end up in jail.

1.      Take as much of Sparxxx's drug stash as you need to make money for him.

2.      Head up to the main city districts of Singleton and set up shop. Try not to make it obvious to people the kind of merchandise you're selling.

3.      Push your products and make that money. If someone tries to rip you off, feel free to extract that money from them, with a little bit of force if necessary.

4.      Do what you can to avoid the unwanted attention of the police. If they give you any problems, do what you can to evade them.

Challenge 3: Rescue someone from witness protection (COMPLETED BY LUCKY, ̶R̶A̶M̶B̶O̶ STEVE, ̶T̶O̶M̶, LINDSEY)

I have connections with some of the cops here. Know the right ones and pay them off, things come easy in this town, you feel me? But it works the other way around too with Jebidiah Kane. He too knows people and he has the cash to make them his own puppets too. One of my major drug pushes, Charles Sculley, is under witness protection for seeing a murder. He's up in a house up West in Singleton, up in the woods. But I fear the Yarddogs may buy off the ones watching him so they can take him and off him. I need to get him as far away from the town as possible and destroy his current identity and give him a new one, as well as set up shop wherever he goes next. Here's what I need.

1.      See Emery for any of your weapon or protection needs if you so desire.

2.      Look for where Charles is. Again, like I said, he's up West somewhere in the woods.

3.      Get Charles out of the house as stealthily and safely as possible. And if you end up fighting off the ones influenced by the Yarddogs, don't be afraid to use violence if you need to.

4.      Destroy Charles's old identity and give him his new one (You will have everything in an envelope, which includes IDs, birth certificates, all that) and get him to the airport without incident.

Challenge 4: Steal weapons from trainyard (COMPLETED BY ̶T̶O̶M̶, ̶R̶A̶M̶B̶O̶, LINDSEY, ̶S̶T̶R̶A̶W̶B̶E̶R̶R̶Y̶, STEVE, LUCKY, TYLER)

It's time to stalk up on equipment! Emery has plenty of good stuff, but we could always use more, feel me? I just got the word that a military surplus train is coming by Los Capucha, even making a brief stop. Has a lot of goods, like weapons, explosives, armor, maybe even a Jeep. Can't let all of that go to waste, you feel me? Feel free to take some of my own people with you and make your way to the train and take as much stuff as you can.

1.      Gather some of Sparxxx's people and arm yourselves.

2.      Head over to the train as it makes its stop (or if you're feeling really bold, follow the train and raid it as it moves).

3.      Steal all the explosives, weaponry, armor, anything you can find and get it off the train.

4.      Bring back everything you've taken to Emery's and hope to God the military doesn't come after you as you do all that.

Challenge 5: Fight to gain new turf (COMPLETED BY  ̶R̶E̶I̶N̶A̶, TYLER, MILA, LUCKY, ̶R̶A̶M̶B̶O̶ )

You know what we could use? Expansion. Us Cappers need to branch out beyond this dingy little neighborhood, you feel me? And sometimes, if you really want something bad enough, you take it. And if someone wants to fight you for it, challenge them and win. And that's exactly what you're about to do. Go up to some territory that belongs to the Yarddogs, slaughter any you see and leave your mark saying it's now  property of the Cappers!

1.      See Emery for any weaponry or equipment you need and recruit some of Sparxxx's people.

2.      Go around until you manage to find some Yarddog territory.

3.      Go in fighting! Massacre all the Yarddogs you see. Leave no survivors!

4.      Find a way to leave your mark and make it clear the territory now belongs to the Cappers.

[Florien]

Ahhh. fuck it. Drugs. Option Two. Just like Scotland.

Step one: Lindsey gets ahold of as many drugs as they can load into a van. High-value stuff. They'll have it sold soon. They also make sure to grab a list of other, lesser drug distributors and their phone numbers, and persuade a random capper to help out. After all, most drug dealers don't go around selling, they know their clients. Better to rely on those distributors who already have connections.

Step two: Lindsey cunningly grabs an ice cream truck. They have built in refrigerators and storage, travel across the city, and no one will question things too much, as Lindsey is wearing the appropriate apron. Obviously, Lindsey also brings a cooler of ice cream in case someone calls the bluff.

Step three: Lindsey calls up those lesser distributors, sets up meetings, and sells the drugs to them at a discount. Still enough to make a profit, but notably less than the standard drug MLM scheme charges the distributors below. Then, Lindsey has the capper they brought follow the distributor and wait for them to stash the drugs somewhere, and take the opportunity to steal them back. Then when Lindsey gets the call of "I need more to sell" they sell the same drugs back, then take a cut of the proceeds from the actual sales thereafter. That should result in Lindsey making twice the value of the drug had Lindsey just sold it at normal rates once. If any distributor tries to not pay Lindsey, Lindsey can always just grab them and lock them in the freezer naked. That'll make them give up fast.

Step four: Evading detection should already be pretty easy, considering the whole ice cream truck front as well as only distributing to distributers who have apparently gone under the radar thus far. On the extreme off-chance the police come, Lindsey learned warrant law, and can tell them the reasons they can't search the truck. No way they'll have a warrant today, and Lindsey won't be doing the same scheme again, so everything should be fine.

[Mr. Lee Hammer]

Ahhh. fuck it. Drugs. Option Two. Just like Scotland.

Step one: Lindsey gets ahold of as many drugs as they can load into a van. High-value stuff. They'll have it sold soon. They also make sure to grab a list of other, lesser drug distributors and their phone numbers, and persuade a random capper to help out. After all, most drug dealers don't go around selling, they know their clients. Better to rely on those distributors who already have connections.

Step two: Lindsey cunningly grabs an ice cream truck. They have built in refrigerators and storage, travel across the city, and no one will question things too much, as Lindsey is wearing the appropriate apron. Obviously, Lindsey also brings a cooler of ice cream in case someone calls the bluff.

Step three: Lindsey calls up those lesser distributors, sets up meetings, and sells the drugs to them at a discount. Still enough to make a profit, but notably less than the standard drug MLM scheme charges the distributors below. Then, Lindsey has the capper they brought follow the distributor and wait for them to stash the drugs somewhere, and take the opportunity to steal them back. Then when Lindsey gets the call of "I need more to sell" they sell the same drugs back, then take a cut of the proceeds from the actual sales thereafter. That should result in Lindsey making twice the value of the drug had Lindsey just sold it at normal rates once. If any distributor tries to not pay Lindsey, Lindsey can always just grab them and lock them in the freezer naked. That'll make them give up fast.

Step four: Evading detection should already be pretty easy, considering the whole ice cream truck front as well as only distributing to distributers who have apparently gone under the radar thus far. On the extreme off-chance the police come, Lindsey learned warrant law, and can tell them the reasons they can't search the truck. No way they'll have a warrant today, and Lindsey won't be doing the same scheme again, so everything should be fine.

1. You manage to scour some of the most potent drugs there is on the market. Real high-value stuff too. Stuff that will make you a fortune overnight. And you manage to find a list of clients. And on top of this, these said clients have their own connections that can get you all kinds of new business, even expanding past the city of Singleton. Even past America. You got the whole world in your hands to sell the goods. But are you prepared to deal with the inevitable heat that the authorities will give you? (Rolled 9 and 1+ for intelligence for 10)

2. You do get the ice cream truck and it has all the storage and refrigeration you need. And you also have the ice cream to go along with it. Although you do overestimate one detail: the kids. And naturally, as you drive around, kids do surround you non-stop and of course, you have to sell them ice cream. So that does slow you down on the way to your clients. But then again, it is a little side hustle for you that does net you a little bit more profit. (Rolled 9 and 1+ for intelligence for a total of 10)

3. And your little ploy works well. Having your Capper steal the original sold drugs back and just to sell them again manages to succeed. Guess these clients don't know how to guard their own stuff. But nevertheless, you make a killing. (Rolled a 7)

4. Things have went really well for you thus far. But now you find yourselves surrounded by cops. And you try to tell them about the warrant laws. But you forgot one detail. The Singleton cops are above-the-law and corrupt as hell. They search the truck anyway and find your goods. Not wanting to go down without a fight, you kill the cops before the SWAT team shows up and takes you down and shuts down your business. And you guessed it. Jail is where you go and Sparxxx once again has to bail you out. At least most of the plan worked out. (Rolled 2 and 1- for violent tendencies for a total of 1)

Lindsey Clipton has scored a total of 28 points.

[Florien]

Well that worked out about as well as it could have. Going to be safe tonight. Hopefully.