(06-22-2021, 00:26:00 AM)Clancy Wrote:

(06-22-2021, 00:09:35 AM)Whistle Wrote: Zootopia didn't have that great of an allegory anyway. Why would predators be represented as the oppressed minority when they're the ones who eat people?

That reminds me of all those works that feature bigotry against a group of people with abilities beyond those of mere mortals. And in those cases the allegory doesn't hold up, because black people (for example) don't have any particular natural advantage over white people, while witches/wizards (for example) have a definite natural advantage. In which case the Beware the Superman trope comes into play; of course you should be scared of magic-users, psychics, superhumans, vampires etc.! Racism is irrational by nature, but if people in the other group all have the ability to mind-control you, tear your head off with their bare hands, burn you to ashes with eye lasers and so on, then bigotry against them is hardly irrational.

Of course, that isn't to say that this type of bigotry is unlikely considering the possible future existence of cyborgs, designer humans and other technologically enhanced people, but if you want to portray that, you should treat it like a new issue, not compare the treatment with current real-life racism.

(06-22-2021, 00:09:35 AM)Whistle Wrote: Zootopia didn't have that great of an allegory anyway. Why would predators be represented as the oppressed minority when they're the ones who eat people?

Side-note: That scene where the rabbit holds her child toward her after a tiger comes by would be a lot more visually interesting if it were a large "prey" animal (say, a giraffe) holding her child away from a small "predator" animal (say, an otter).

(06-22-2021, 02:04:34 AM)Dookie Wrote:

(06-22-2021, 00:09:35 AM)Whistle Wrote: Zootopia didn't have that great of an allegory anyway. Why would predators be represented as the oppressed minority when they're the ones who eat people?

Side-note: That scene where the rabbit holds her child toward her after a tiger comes by would be a lot more visually interesting if it were a large "prey" animal (say, a giraffe) holding her child away from a small "predator" animal (say, an otter).

That's why I like the original plot with the shock collars better. You can really feel that the predators are the oppressed minority in it, as they're reprimanded for their ancestor's actions. Forced to wear shock collars if they get too aggressive or excited.

(06-22-2021, 03:03:30 AM)Risdio51 Wrote: Can you not react to a post like that the way you did, John? I know you meant best, but it came off as sarcastic.